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PostPosted: 2006-Mar-20 Mon, am10:04 Reply with quote
 Post subject: [教学][测试]制造Z机电池的廉价方案探索

自从一周前入手了sharp 7500c,被其强大的功能所震撼,另外工作经常下乡,更是离不开了。但是马上发现一个大问题,电池不够用。taobao上只有2个卖电池的,一个要价3位数,一个也要65元。仔细一看,总觉得bl-06电池和手机电池很象,记得自己有许多废电池,找了一下,翻出来一块nokia电池,和原装非常象,只是电池极性相反。但因为2块电池都有3只脚,当中脚有没有带电池信息识别呢,要接上去试试才行。这几天一直下不了决心,怕认出来不对锁机什么的。oe上老有人说充电问题,再说小日本坏得很,笔记本电池都能让你锁掉。
直到昨天,badog老大的文章说用其他电池DIY成了,我就有把握了,哈哈。
http://forum.zaurus.cn/viewtopic.php?t=199
那就说明不存在电池识别问题啦。马上动手,从N电池电极上焊出3条线,用小夹子夹到Z机电池仓触点上(注意极性不要搞错)。一按开机钮,不工作!失败了?啊,原来忘了把电池仓开关拨过去。再试...啊,一切OK。
那只要照badog老大的作法,把N电池正负反一下就大功告成了。剩下只是时间问题,做点手工活而已了。

by the way。再作个测试先,在原装电池与电池仓的中触点用一张小纸片隔绝,拨好电池仓开关,开机也OK!
开机试用,电量也会随使用而下降,说明中触点作用只是在充电时起监控作用而在使用时可以忽略。
所以得到最后结论:
N记电池完全可替代原装电池,只要在电池前加一块转接板反转正负极便可,建议只引正负2条线,当中电极不接,毕竟可能与原装电池中间极电路有所差别,不要冒险:)
充电就用手机万能充电器,要坏也让它坏在外面,呵呵。
而且,不限于N电池,只要能放进电池仓的手机电池,都可以用于Z机,只要极性对,应该没有危险。
这样,成本就极低廉啦,优质薄电也只要30元左右呢,万能充5元,大家偷偷乐吧∶)
最后还要感谢badog老大先吃螃蟹.......
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PostPosted: 2006-Mar-20 Mon, am11:36 Reply with quote
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呵呵,看来一只技术狐狸,够谨慎的.
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PostPosted: 2006-Mar-20 Mon, pm1:04 Reply with quote
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新大陆啊!论坛强人多起来了!
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PostPosted: 2006-Mar-21 Tue, am2:39 Reply with quote
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本来我想实施这个实验的,万能充都备好了,没想到出差让楼主占先了,呵呵呵

技术狐狸,呵呵呵

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PostPosted: 2006-Mar-21 Tue, am7:33 Reply with quote
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报告一下,我已经用上了:)
根本不用挡板,用镍片焊接移位一下就可:)

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PostPosted: 2006-Mar-21 Tue, am8:37 Reply with quote
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很早的时候就听说过Nokia的8200的手机电池和Z的BL06大小接近。我以前也比较过尺寸,好像就差0.5mm。我的原来的SL-5500也丢了,后来买了用到现在电池也还行。不过好像还有一种相机的电池和BL06的比较像,我没有去考证过,但手边有过那种相机,却没有测试过。

CEBIT品牌:FUJIFILM NP-60 (图片仅供参考)

产品介绍:

类型 Li-ion
电压 3.7 V
容量 1050mAh
重量 26 g
体积 53.00x35.30x7.00 mm
颜色 Black
采用电芯品牌 Panasonic Cells

Model Name:

EA-BL06

Dimensions:

35.3mm x 53.1mm x7.1mm

Weight:

Approx. 27.5g

Features:

• Same as bundled battery pack

• Rechargeable Lithium-ion
Battery 3.7V, 950mAh

不过似乎正负也是反的。

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PostPosted: 2006-Mar-21 Tue, am8:38 Reply with quote
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http://www.myzaurus.com/acc_Power2.asp
EA-BL06

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PostPosted: 2006-Mar-21 Tue, am8:56 Reply with quote
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谁能提供一个BL11的电池的尺寸上来?然后可以去对照对照。原装的电池似乎实在太贵!
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PostPosted: 2006-Mar-21 Tue, am9:00 Reply with quote
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不过这个地方的这个电池似乎价格还不错,不过是在日本
其他地方都要8000YEN以上。
http://www.rowa.co.jp/cabinet/form.cgi?no=1126
上面似乎还在贬低国内产的电池:
●適合機種 
Zaurus PDA
SL-C760
SL-C860
SL-C750
SL-C1000
SL-C3000
SL-B500
※SL-C700では電池の形状が異なるため使用できません


■純正品ではない.ご注意ください.
■電圧:3.7V
■容量:1800mAh
●使用セルメーカー:SANYO
■もし予備バッテリーをお捜しなら、必ず日本セルで生産のバッテリーを買いましょう。また、リチウムイオン電池も他の電池同様、充電、放電を繰り返すと、徐々に容量は減っていきます。日本セルはサイクル寿命が長い充放電を繰り返すサイクル特性は500回以上可能です(中国セル300回)。使い方によっては1000回以上も可能です。一般的には500回の充放電の後、初期の容量の80%程度になります。

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PostPosted: 2006-Mar-21 Tue, am11:27 Reply with quote
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对国产电池,用次品电芯,一般300次循环.我问电池加工商,如果用正品电芯一样可以500~600次循环,价格高了,就没有人肯买贵,因为消费者会说,别人的电池才XX价钱,你的太贵.
我们要批量定制话:他可以用正品电芯,不过价格从28元/片上升到50多元/片.起数是2000片.<------指1200mah以下的电池
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PostPosted: 2006-Mar-22 Wed, pm10:46 Reply with quote
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强烈支持!
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PostPosted: 2006-Jun-05 Mon, pm11:18 Reply with quote
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楼主用的是什么小夹子啊?盖子能盖上吗?
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PostPosted: 2006-Jun-06 Tue, pm4:20 Reply with quote
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小夹子是试验用的,成品用镍片焊接移位就可以了,用塑料或纸版垫片绝缘。
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PostPosted: 2006-Jun-11 Sun, pm11:00 Reply with quote
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wwgwwg wrote:
小夹子是试验用的,成品用镍片焊接移位就可以了,用塑料或纸版垫片绝缘。

什么叫“用镍片焊接移位”?能上张图片吗?
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PostPosted: 2006-Jul-24 Mon, pm2:39 Reply with quote
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我淘宝店里有售适合sharp sl-7500c,c1000,c3100,5600c用的电池:
1夏普原装950mah电池
http://auction1.taobao.com/auction/0/item_detail-0db2-6e133659904dda0f0933ddb6db7ba84a.jhtml

2国产电池1050mah
http://auction1.taobao.com/auction/0/item_detail-0db2-f7f1c4bd94df2b4e1ae6d7b1bcf17b5b.jhtml

3专用夏普串口数据线
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需要可在淘宝购买,批量优惠。
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